Keith, a 48-year-old university lecturer in medical microbiology from Leeds, and Amanda, a 67-year-old family lawyer from Doncaster, sat down for a meal as part of the Dining Across the Divide series. Despite initial nerves, they found common ground on several topics.
First Impressions and Meal
Keith admitted to being nervous about who he would meet, but found Amanda an excellent dinner companion. Amanda was anxious beforehand, questioning why she agreed to participate, but ultimately enjoyed the evening and was surprised by how much they agreed on. The meal started with Thai fish cakes, sweet chilli ribs, and lamb meatballs, followed by a main course of pork and holy basil stir-fry topped with a fried egg for Keith, who also enjoyed a local beer called Little Critters. Amanda, new to Thai cuisine, had Keith order for her and chose a red salmon curry, with pancake and cake for dessert.
The Monarchy Debate
The main point of contention was the monarchy. Keith, a republican, believes the monarchy should have been abolished long ago, arguing that people should not be treated differently by accident of birth. He cited Prince Andrew as an example, noting that despite losing his title and home, there were no real consequences. Amanda countered by questioning what would replace the monarchy, emphasizing that they reign but do not rule and bring in revenue through their existence and events. Keith acknowledged that the monarchy offers a safety valve due to its political neutrality, unlike a potential President Farage, but still supports abolition. Amanda respects Keith's republican views but urges realism over ideology.
Flags and National Symbols
Keith dislikes the co-opting of the St George's cross and union jack by the far right, suggesting they be taken down from public places when used to intimidate, but allowing private display. Amanda hates seeing the flags, especially when officially displayed on lamp-posts, comparing it to Germany in the 1930s and 1940s and interpreting it as a statement of white Britishness.
Views on Starmer
Keith criticizes Keir Starmer for not being bold enough, citing the freezing of tax thresholds as a tax on the poor, and finds the Labour party's obsession with Peter Mandelson baffling. He describes Starmer as a dead man walking, though Amanda disagrees. Amanda is kinder to Starmer, acknowledging he is an excellent lawyer but not a politician, and believes things are improving despite problems caused by wars and potholes.
Final Thoughts
Keith advocates for more discussions with people who hold differing opinions, warning against cultural ghettoization where disagreement leads to disassociation. Amanda enjoyed the conversation and the challenge of rethinking her views. They ate at the Salutation in Doncaster.
